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Vile · Jun 05, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

I know that this class has been suggested many times, but what makes this different from most is that I've drawn out concepts for what this class would look like based on my experience of playing Guild Wars. I figured pictures convince more than words so here's some images of what my girlfriend and I thought would be a good class to add to the Guild Wars family of professions. Since the new professions seemed to be based off of the previous character models (i.e. ranger = ritualists, or necromancer = assassin) this class could be built off of the mesmer model. It was my intention that the troubadour profession use instruments instead of weapons to battle their enemies so I threw in a couple of examples of what possible instruments could be used. My girlfriend suggested that offhand weapons could be whistles or bells, maybe a tambourine. Obvioulsy drums, lutes/guitars, and flutes would be two handed weapons. I also conceived that their skills could be songs and that the song names would be titles of the skills. Ideally the primary color of their armor would be blue when first purchased so that's the color I leaned to in the pictures. Some differentiating attributes would be the hats for head protection and high collars to protect the throat from injury for vocal attacks. I especially like the large brimed hats with the feathers, they strike me as a good unique quality. Also if this class were assimilated into the game it would be interesting to see if the designers/programers could implement the instruments to be used during the musical emotes so that they'd be visible when played. It'd be neat to see players of different classes to keep instruments to be used for this purpose.

hope the bandwidth holds out:
https://webspace.utexas.edu/try55/Pi...f?uniq=-buo6jw
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https://webspace.utexas.edu/try55/Pi...f?uniq=-buo6jw
https://webspace.utexas.edu/try55/Pi...f?uniq=-buo6jw

I'd like to hear what other ideas ya'll can come up with for this class!

lyra_song · Jun 05, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Bard. Suggested already

Vile · Jun 05, 2006, 03:33 AM // 03:33

Did you not see the pictures...?

lyra_song · Jun 05, 2006, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Yes...i did see that pics.

A bard is a very typical MMORPG class that uses musical instruments and songs as weapons and magic. Exactly what you suggested.

Vile · Jun 05, 2006, 04:32 AM // 04:32

Yes, this profession has been covered, but it is said that Arena.net reads the forums for ideas. That's why I posted pictures for a frequently suggested profession. I'm not trying to cover old ground, I'm trying to add enough spectacle to influence the game developers into making this class. There are enough suggestions in these forums and others that in future games this class should be added.

Lampshade · Jun 05, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22

So you drew some pictures. WAHOOOO!!!

How does this class work? I don't remember singing each other to death
What skills?
What attributes
How does it fit into GW?
Why is it needed?

Imp · Jun 05, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

I see some kind of bard working in GW, but it is not original. Nice drawings.

NinjaKai · Jun 05, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampshade

So you drew some pictures. WAHOOOO!!!

How does this class work? I don't remember singing each other to death
What skills?
What attributes
How does it fit into GW?
Why is it needed?

He is simply adding onto the original ideas. Please don't critisize like that when your only effort to this thread is not constructive.

led-zep · Jun 05, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaKai

He is simply adding onto the original ideas. Please don't critisize like that when your only effort to this thread is not constructive.

that doesnt disguise the fact its nothing but a bunch of pictures, would suit an armour suggeston but definately not a class suggestion as to be frank theres no class suggested apart from a name.

and yeah, its still only a bard under another name.

lyra_song · Jun 05, 2006, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Im not criticizing the idea myself, but i think MERGING this thread with a pre-existing bard thread would be a better idea.

Terra Xin · Jun 05, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

*shudders*... bards and motley clothing... ew...

lemme see here...

actionjack's Virtuosso/bard Concept Class:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=133754

keyblader319's Bard Concept Class:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3002248

actionjack · Jun 05, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15

I like my virtuosso class...

great art work, like the concept and style.

I do have a bit of problem with music instrument doing attack damages. Maybe with skills, but just with regular attack seem a bit strang... unless they are magical attack of sort...

I am also not too fancy with the "classic" outfit of the bard as in those pictures. Many deem men in tight tights to be a bit fruity...They just seem a bit too traditional to me, and I would hope GW would re-invent those classes somebit, adding Gypse or even tribalistic or Vikin style to it. So instead of one who sing and play in court, they should be more of a War Singer, Blade Dancer, or Army Marcher type. Of couse, thats just my opinions.

Vile · Jun 05, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

Ideally this would just be starting point to the armor, usually the armor in the game gets way cooler as you work through it so I felt I didn't have to go all out on the design. I didn't think I had to support this class as it has already been described many times over again under other similar names. I'm sure if Arena.net added a "Bard" to this game it would be much different from the classic understanding of how the character works. I'm also not opposed to this thread being merged since I was just trying to provide a visual for a class that'd been suggested frequently. I really don't think they'd use the weapons in a typical combat style. Some one suggested to me that they use skills similar to item skills used by ritualists where the skill would summon an instrument associated with it until the skill ended.

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Many deem men in tight tights to be a bit fruity...

I'm reminded me a Mel Brooks' classic, "Men In Tights". It seems to me that most character models in this game are wearing rather tight fitting clothes. The tights were just between the boots and the puffy pants anyway.

MCS · Jun 06, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

The is giving me nightmares and the first picture appears to be a man with breasts....

Good drawings just....scary....

Vile · Jun 06, 2006, 12:34 AM // 00:34

not all women can be beautiful, thanks for you crude interpretation, though I'm not sure that needed to be commented on...

MCS · Jun 06, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08

We can't comment on your lack of any actual suggestion and we can't comment on your pictures?

What can I comment on vile? It was sunny here today, I think it might rain tomorrow though.

And yes all women must be beautiful, no one wants to watch an ugly chick run around all day.

Vile · Jun 06, 2006, 12:35 PM // 12:35

You can comment all you like, just make it polite and use some decency when responding to another human being. You are entitled to you own opinions but you're showing your lack of social graces in your responses. Since this thread has very little to do with anything at all now I recommend that you take your ideals elsewhere.